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Moral sup for various maps (amount of spr required) - Orochi - 01-06-2012
I just typed this out on main forums, so i'm posting it as well since it wasted 20 mins of my time lol.
from tests done on chinese servers, most npcs in tart have a spr total of around 140, with named npcs having higher stats (this is the norm for all maps, named npcs always have higher spr stats), eg cronus 150 spr. hence tart isn't an issue since any decently washed MS hero would be able to -60 morale according to the formula of (attker spr - defender spr) +40 = moral minused. which makes sense since u cant enchant before u complete tart n level above lv 100, hence the low spr stats for npcs in tart.
for rag most npcs have spr stats of 10-30 higher than tart npcs, so roughly 150-170. sult has 225 spr stat, so a MS hero needs 245 since (245+40) - 225 = 60
desert npcs, 170 spr stat, so if your MS hero has enough spr for sult, desert is no issue. same for valkyrie. (apparantly skuld's stats were nerfed in one of the updates to make him easier, was higher than 170) <--- note : i didn't test this personally, not gonna waste time hitting skuld to test.. whoever has the time n divs might want to confirm this
for CM npcs it's around 180-230, seigfried is around 270 spr.
for LT npcs it's around 180-260, for Seth i calculated it myself according to my BRhttp://b15.clapalong.com/?fid=N201112173828496. my oneiroi was 243+64 = 307, i only took away -51 morale. so seth's spr stat would be 296. Anubis spr is 310.
for Nils npcs it's supposedly around 270-295, i'll test on named npcs when i'm ready.
p.s: it's pretty obvious how npcs stats scale a lot higher after CM, that's why enchant is so important.
RE: Moral sup for various maps (amount of spr required) - Pluton - 01-06-2012
Nice Orochi!
It's pretty obvious that end game NPCs become almost impossible to beat without huge luck with specific formation and heroes. (so you never finish the game)
NPC Anubis has +200 spirit from base. A lv 130 player's Anubis would have max +150 wash + 100 enchant, so ~40-50 stat above that NPC.
Would the Camel Rider in NPC Anubis formation have 260 spirit stat?
RE: Moral sup for various maps (amount of spr required) - Orochi - 01-06-2012
maps after LT are a huge grind.. mainly because of the gear and enchant requirements.. it's so much higher than LT and below. gonna take months of camping and farming for the average player.
the odin's calvary have 170 spr, 55 lower than sult, so i guess if u go by the same logic around 260 sounds right for camel riders. needs to be tested though to be sure.
RE: Moral sup for various maps (amount of spr required) - Agamemnon_S13/4 - 01-09-2012
Max gemming is so important, the extra stat points really convert, i noticed my heimdall went from blocking for 1600 to 2200 with +30 more gemming and another +40 spirit on his wash. Incoming damage on the sphinxs in anabus fell by 33% also - its really significant - 4 gem runs a day for sure!
RE: Moral sup for various maps (amount of spr required) - Pluton - 01-13-2012
Stats of NPCs
(From Inevitable)
For normal heroes:
Spirit = level ?
For named heroes:
Spirit = base spirit + level + [enchant]
If you look here for Chilly Moutain:
http://sols9.com/batheo/Ranking/expedition.php?Map=21
Odin's Calvary : 60 (base) + 110 (level) = 170
Sult: 115 (base) + 110 (level) = 225
Edjo: 115 (base) + 120 (level) = ???
Skuld: 80 (base) + 130 (level) + 20? (enchant) = ???
Siegfried: ~90? (base) + 140 (level) + 40? (enchant) = ~270
Seth: 100? (base) + 139 (level) + 59? (enchant) = 296
Anubis: 110 (base) + 140 (level) + 60 (enchant) = 310
RE: Moral sup for various maps (amount of spr required) - Pluton - 01-19-2012
Chilly Mountain: Gevjon = 256 Spirit stat
My Eurybia was 248+12, did -44 morale.
http://b5.clapalong.com/?fid=N2012011910231474
My guess is that Rind in CM has similar stat, like 260-290 element stat. My heph is 241+19 element... no much difference in damage reduction from other heroes...
http://b5.clapalong.com/?fid=N2012011910217152
Heim, Asclep, Eury took 150% while Heph took 130% damage... Rind = ~280 element stat...
