Ultimate Batheo Athanaton Forum - Discussions, Strategy, PvP

Ashlar Fights: Faction PvP for a few extra coffers

Tue, 24 Feb 2015 00:13:33 +0000

So the first Ashlar Fights are over. (Poseidon won on S3 with 72 Ashlar and received 8 coffers).

For those wondering what the Miracle Activity is:
- this is a faction vs faction assault based on PvP fights in the New World.
- Like Massive Assaults, it relies on PvP (instead of Gem Battle-like Legion fights). Unlike Massive Assaults though, you do not have to win an area to win... you need to accumulate stones (Ashlar) by launching PvP attacks. No specific area is required.
- Deity purchase costs are lowered to a 1n scale (1 gold, 2 gold, 3 gold, etc...) instead of the normal 3n scale.
- Cool Down reduction costs are lowered by 1 gold. A red CD can be eliminated by spending 7 gold (instead of the normal 8 gold).
- seizing Ashlar (stones) occurs randomly, and can happen even when launching a losing attack. Even a suicide 10-0 loss can win Ashlar. Drop rates seem lower during losses vs Complete Wins... but that's just anecdotal, no stats on that yet.

This activity's rewards are horrible.

Dumping every coffer and deity you have into this activity in total dominance (ie. winning 72 Ashlar) results in only 8 extra coffers. Yes, not 800, and not even 80.... just EIGHT.

NEVER EVER spend ANY gold on this activity for ANY reason.

Archeology Activity: combine caravan map frag drops for jewels and gems

Tue, 24 Feb 2015 00:05:56 +0000

Stats gathered from the previous Archeology Activity:
1) Purchase costs of Map fragments follow 3n progression (Cost = 3g, 6g, 9g, 12g, etc..). Game notice claims 50 quota can be purchased each day, making the last quota cost 150g.

2) Sending caravans has a random map frag drop rate of 25%. (95%C.I. is 22.1% to 27.4%)

3) Map frag colors are randomly assigned (VIP and Assembly level do NOT influence distribution).
45%, 30%, 15%, 9%, 1%, and 0% for White, Blue, Green, Yellow, Red, and Purple frags respectively.

4) Jewel rewards from a Prepared Archeology Activity is determined by your map frag's color.
0, 4, 8, 12, 20, and 30 jewels for the White, Blue, Green, Yellow, Red, and Purple frags respectively.

5) Gem rewards from a Prepared Archeology Activity is determined by the sum of maps in your 3 person group.GEMS = 11+2B+4G+10Y+24R+50P

6) Selling frags is possible, though the dracs are low and inadvisable unless you're selling white quota just to get a new map type (I, II, or III). 4k dracs, 6k, 8k, 16k, 32k, and 64k for W,B,G,Y,R,P respectively.

There is no bonus for any particular sequence or combination. Map drop rates, color distribution rates, and map gem/jewel values means each caravan sent during activity should net 0.92 Jewels + 18.0 gems. If you get 12 caravans a day, that's 11.0 jewels +215.7 gems per day.

Jewels gained by using the 5g color upgrade results in the following cost:
White = 1.25 gold/jewel
Blue = 1.25 gold/jewel
Green = 1.25 gold/jewel
Yellow = 0.625 gold/jewel
Red = 0.50 gold/jewel
(Purple can not be upgraded)

Always upgrade yellow and red map frags to purple.
(White, blue, and green are also on par with the best deals in the Bazaar.)

Full BM battle reports

Mon, 01 Sep 2014 17:15:58 +0000

Hi, I am searching for full BM battle reports from Zeus for later maps, Fallen fire rain and onwards. If anyone have that to post or know a link to where I can find this please leave a comment here!

Progression so far:

These three with only one S set and one V set.

VF1: http://eub1.clapalong.com/?fid=N201407252761805

VF2: http://eub1.clapalong.com/?fid=N201407252769478

VF3: http://eub1.clapalong.com/?fid=N20140726814938

Changed to 2 S sets with G14*3 G13 and G13*3 G14 jewels.

Coyote: http://eub1.clapalong.com?fid=N201408292413257

Yum Kax: http://eub1.clapalong.com?fid=N201408292442654

/eligolf

Purple Arms Max grade

Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:22:34 +0000

just a quick question...which probably has been answered many times...what is the max grade of purple arms ? Does it go by player level ?

Do the new gear frags exist or are they just written there

Mon, 08 Apr 2013 06:58:29 +0000

has anyone actulluy received a frag from the new gear i have won 68 times against tezcatlpoca in COG and have no frag yet hahah says low drop rate but fvk me

Cheers \
G

dont worry 154 divs got me a frag lol guess they mean really low drop rate

Inanna: 30% stun, 17% crit... and how crits work.

Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:04:18 +0000

Here ya go. After 101 BRs, 362 attacks, I've found Inanna's crit rate is about 17%, and stun rate is 30%.

The instance of both a crit AND stun is 5%. This verifies that they operate independently, and that the number above are very good estimates (0.3 * 0.17 = 0.05).

A chart showing the running rate calculations (y-axis) as sample size accumulated (along the x axis):

Its worth noting that the crit ONLY applies to the valor part of Inanna's attack. Spirit damage is unaffected. This is a game setting that calculates all crits.

REGULAR ATTACK CRITS (=1.5x Valor attack bonus)
All Mechs and BM's doing crits in valor mode (<100% moral), ONLY get the crit bonus on the valor part of the attack. For BM's its normal for regular mode crits to be all valor anyway so that's not an issue. For pure mechs who only operate in valor mode, that's also a non-issue. It appears however that spirit mechs who crit, are only given valor bonus, not spirit.

The bonus for pure-valor-crits is normally 1.5x stronger attack power, which usually means damage at LEAST that much more than normal.. upwards of 1.8x if you're already getting powerful attack advantage, but as low as 1.5x when you're only doing minimal damage (the min damage amount in the damage formula also gets this 1.5 bonus, which is how we/I can work this out ). Average valor crits will be 1.6 to 1.7 that of normal valor attacks.

Since spirit-mech regular attacks consist of BOTH valor and spirit, and the crit only applies to the valor portion, expect crits of 1.2x or so. Its not that you're not getting the same valor boost, you are, but the spirit isn't getting boosted. To get a spirit boost from a crit, you NEED to be a BM hero.

BM Attack Crits (1.25x spirit attack damage)
Pure-spirit BM heros (like Lotis and Triton) who crit in BM mode get a spirit bm bonus. The bonus is only 1.25x though... an control on outrageous damages from crits... but it does apply to spirit, so that increase is still substantial.

Continuous BM heros who crit in valor mode, only get valor damage, and its the same 1.5x attack power increase (meaning it'll be 1.5 to as high as 1.8x total damage) as expected. The BM-mode crits for these continuous BM heros is more complicated, I'm still working to get data on this from Sult while tracking it against moral level. It appears though that continuous BM's only get a spirit crit bonus like pure bm heros do. It doesn't APPEAR that they get both... only one or the other depending on which mode their are in (reg vs BM).

Crit rates I have data on:
Lotis (Sea Longbow Archer) = 25% crit rate (in both Regular AND BM attacks)
Phorcys (Armored Trojan Horse) = 25% crit rate
Inanna (Crescent Ballista) = 17% crit rate (only valor crits in this spirit-mech attack. 120% power is average)
Thrud (Thunderbolt Ballista) = 10% crit rate (170% power)
Triton (Golden Cavalry) = 5% crit rate (due to his "golden" status. Cavalry do not normally crit)

Next ones to check:
Eurybia (Soul Hunter)
Odin (Soul Longbow)
Thor (Thunder Onager)
Iphitos (Golden Pezhetairoi)
Hermes (Phantom Phalanx)
Galene (Sea Scorpion) - has crits and "supposedly" can cause Deserting status like cylone mages.

Ones I'll need help with:
Shadow Cavalry (Hera, Siren, Onirii)

I may also do some low mechs for comparison (i.e. Odysses is a Trojan Horse, unarmored, and may crit a different rates than Phorcys). There are some other archers I'd like to test as well... later.

Here's Phorcys crit rate and damage done:
You'll notice the lowest value is 150% damage, and as his TG levels up over time, the lowest crit rises to abotu 155%. Near the end there is a large jump, as I gave him a max'd out mjollnir for more damage. As expected, the damage % increased more than the minimum 150% (since crits only affect attacking power, not total damage done). The highest bonus I recorded was a 182% done with a max'd out Thrud hero with max weapons, valor jeweling, and G20 valor hit arms. For pure valor attacks, expect about 160% to 170% damage during a crit.

Here you can see Thrud's crit rate run out to about 10%:

As you can see in these running charts of calculated crit rates, you need about 200 samples to get things close. Random variation plays a LARGE role in expected outcome over less than 50 attacks... and definitely less than 20 attacks you can get in a BR. Things look very random until you sample about 200+ times...

Acrobat Webcapture

Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:30:59 +0000

Anyone tried Acrobat Webcapture + Flash tool in Acrobat 9 to save the battle reports?

GIVING UP HIGH LVL ACCTS

Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:09:16 +0000

GIVING UP HIGH LEVEL ACCTS VERY HIGH LEVEL VIP

INTERESTED PARTIES....PM ME !

or leave ur email here !

Which 150/160 hero for a No VIP Zeusian player?

Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:00:26 +0000

Hi,
mine is a "No VIP" Zeusian account. So I have one red horn only. I'm at level 150 and the formation is classical (Anubis, Sult, Oenomasus, Mist, Eurotas, 2 bugs, Heim, Asclepius). I have 2 maxed kylin and 1 Lv130 maxed Chimera ... 3 purple weapons .. All armaments are grade 4 ...
I need some advice about what should be my next hero.
Personally I do not take Jord and I will try with 3 BM heroes ... but I am ready to accept the suggestions of experienced players ofc ...
thanks in advance.
Giampy

akte

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:30:23 +0000

how increase akte % of stun?? I thought that it was troop grade, but in the descripción of her mark as elemental hero, no like artemisa that it's marked as valor hero

then, what i have to improve her, elemental or valor??

nanna or inanna

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:59:30 +0000

hi! i'm rubory from s1 spanish, and I'm thinking about recruit nanna or innana (or none), but i don't know who is better, I'm just defeated odin and I want to recruit him, but i have seen any chinese BR with odin + inanna, what do you thinking about?

Rubory

rankings

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:21:56 +0000

Lol the ranking here are like ranking in forum

Zeus BM vs iphitos

Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:51:15 +0000

Hi, i'm a lvl 140 zeus player currently stuck on iphitos. I use a full BM build with zeus. I was wondering if anyone had any advice for certain setups for iphitos, because he is very tough even for BM. Not only can he take BM hits easily but the mage behind him decimates my heroes pretty quickly, leading to many losses. I was thinking of eurus/orion for some huge hits but i'm not sure if it will work. I have near max gear/washes but he is still a problem for me. I will post my heroes and gear below.

Heroes:
Zeus - lv. 140 renn 141 - 150/147/3 - +94 valor, +89 spirit --G(14)10 ares/zcloak
cronus - lvl 127 renn 141 -140/137/75 - +68 valor, +80 spirit --G(14)10 ares armor, G12(10) SOS
Anubis - lvl 140 renn 138 - 157/158/1 - +120 valor, +120 (+12) spirit - G(14)10 ares/mjolnir/kylin/zcloak
Sult - lvl 140 renn 141 - 150/151/47 - +120 valor, +120 spirit - G(14)10 ares/mjolnir/kylin/zcloak
hebe - lvl 131 renn 135 - 7/7/28 - G(10) 8 ares
oenomaus - lvl 111 renn 129 - 72/76/7

Arms:
G(3) spear of achilles +750 valor hit
G(4) targe of achilles +681 valor shield
g(5) orpheus mourn +2021 spirit hit
G(3) topaz +756 spirit shield
G(1) reborn sun +150 ele shield

Any advice on formations, or new heroes to equip will be welcome!

Babel Legion

Tue, 01 Jan 2013 20:11:35 +0000

Four man wrecking crew...again

Map rewards are 5 Flag of Unions

http://b19.clapalong.com/?fid=N201301014479457 --VF1

Need List of chinese servers

Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:48:57 +0000

Please post links to any chinese servers, batheo servers, athanaton servers, etc that you know.

If they are using the exact same game mechanics, then the battle reports can be uploaded here and become easily searchable.

Battle
reports uploaded here contain more information, are protected from
being deleted be server merge, or server shutdown, and might have faster
load time (if flash player is changed).

In addition to battle reports, there will be a ranking for each server with many sorting and filtering options.

Current list of servers: http://sols9.com/batheo/br/servers.php

Please post links below or upload some battle report.

Merry Christmas Batheo

Tue, 25 Dec 2012 04:57:21 +0000

Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the Batheo,
not a creature was stirring, not even a rat-eo.

The stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that Saint Hephaestus soon would be there.

The Athenians were nestled all snug in their beds,
while visions of Death Light frags danced in their heads.

When out on the lawn arose such a clatter,
I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter.

Like Telchines to the window I flew like a flash,
tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.

The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow,
gave the lustre of mid-day to slain Zeus-foes below.

When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
but a miniature sleigh and eight kylin err... raindeer.

With a little old driver, so lively and quick,
for a moment I thought it might be Saint Nick!

More rapid than eagles and with napalmn they came,
with fire raining down, he called them by name!

"Now Odin, now Oeno, now Cronus, now Poseidon!
On Jord, on Cupid, on Nanna, and Chiron!
To the top of Olympia! to the top of the Baball!
Now dash away! Dash away! Dash away all!"

As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly,
When they meet with Syrinx, mount to the sky.

So up to the Legions, the course they did chime,
with the sleigh full of toys, Rain Cometh and Oceans of Time

In a red smoking jacket, the girls called him Heph?
With a well-endowed Eurybia... err... lets call her Beth.

A bundle of toys he had flung on his back,
And he looked like peddler, just opening his pack.

His eye's how they twinkled! his dimples how merry!
His cheeks were like roses, his nose like a cherry!

His droll little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
And the beard of his chin was as white as the snow.

The stump of a pipe he held tight in his teeth,
and the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath.

He had a broad face, and little round belly,
That shook when he laughed like a bowl full of jelly!

He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf,
And I laughed when I saw him, inspite of myself.

A wink of his eye and a twist of Zeus's neck,
Soon gave me to know I had nothing to check.

He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
And torched all their troops, and turned with a jerk.

Laying a finger aside of his nose,
And giving a nod, to the sky he arose!

He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle,
And away they all flew, like the down of a thistle.

But I heard him exclaim, as he drove out of sight,
"Merry Christmas to all, and may the mages treat you right!"

Hanging garden Legion

Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:53:48 +0000

Not bragging but interested to know has anyone else completed hanging garden legion?

cheers GBH

Influence factors - arm drop rate and PvP chests

Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:15:10 +0000

Hi, is anybody aware of anything that influences the drop rate when farming for arms or when trying to get treasure chests during PvP?
Maybe certain types of wins ("complete" better than "narrow"?) or opponent types (aggression-level or level?) yield more?

Arms and Continuous BM

Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:02:53 +0000

Do Continuous Battle Magic heroes need both Spirit and Valor Arms maxed to be effective? I know that its best to max all arms, but it is a question of priority.

To NUT or not to NUT

Fri, 09 Nov 2012 01:10:08 +0000

Hello guys!

I have recruited nut and as you can see here his attributes:
http://sols9.com/batheo/Forum/Thread-Hero-Nut

I am wondering if can work if I go in Nils / Olimpia with 3 kylins and 3 mojhlirs. My idea is do a triple wash with him. I have not seen many Brs of Nut but I guess it´s maybe the people is not using a third kylin for an hero like this maybe they go as many people with Mist-Ray mage-Anubis-Sult-Chronus in that part of the expedition (Nils-Olimpia).

My idea is have a third hero but not based in MB and i see the option of Thrud compare to this new guy won´t work as Thrud only hits with valor.

any thought? any recommendation?
Thanks!
Djp