[Zeus] 150 with min arms and good gems!

[Agamemnon_S13/4]

Grendal http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=V8mxtpqV
(Key was Isis, full double wash and +70 valor, Heim +85, Anubis+93V +105Spi)
Hyrm http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=5IeEaOFj
(Tried this using Zeus and Notus which was great, but my Notus was 124 ren and with no kylin i kept tying, so in end gritted it out with Anubis)
Vidar http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=5Iez8sco
Again a tough fight but Ophion landing on bottom row simplifies this alot, then he also does me proud on middle
Idun http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=V8lEcSK2
Absolutely no need for a bug here, espicially with two valor hitters on Heimdall - Ophion is a game changer, use him.
Njord http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=V8lEc201
Another Ophion master class, good healing by Asc to prevent a race for time (G11 book or so)
Ullr http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=V8lE52pR
I didnt get Ophion or Eurotas performing that well here, but simple win
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OLYMPIA
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Iphitos http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=V8lE4Kx7
A perfect Ophion strike starts this fight well, he wreaks havoc. With two valor hitters why would Anubis need a bug anyway? Asc keeps the fight moving well and i can even afford some misses to kill the top row. If i had had G2 ele hit this would have been easier - i was trying to avoid yellow arms at all.
Augeas http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=V8lCr5fO
This is a very hard fight. In the end i went with Ophion as its all about the bottom row dying before a BM. He lands on 2nd bottom which helps and without a kylin my anubis often died in the middle so i had to get a run to survive. I would recommend ophion but the BM can go off without the -5 morale from bug, hope for the right blocks and trust it. (Bug + Kylin maybe allows you to not use him)
Polyhymnia http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=V8lAYHOk
Slow fight, why not use Ophion and hope Asc keeps you alive in the stuns
Ono http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=V8lArE0O
Kill the top row and hope Ophion helps out on middle and top. Takes awhile, not easy.
Myrtilus http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=9dlhYvH0A
Hippo http://sols9.com/batheo/br/v.php?k=V8lx3pbf
Get the bottom row dead fast and hope Ophion helps you!
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GEAR
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117, 119 Ele
105, 100 Spi
95, 93, 59 Valor
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Arms Valor hit 2, Spirit Hit 1, Valor Shield 1, Ele Hit 2 (Tried very hard not to use yellows, cost me 3 days gems)
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2 max purple weapons, 3 max purple armor, 2 max purple books, 1 G12-5 book, max red cloak, max red horse x 2
Horns 2900 (anubis), 2100 (Mist) 1500 (Eurotas), 1400 Heimdall.

My personal advice is not to push any of these maps at all until ready, i think i stalled completely for two weeks because i went early - before i was ready. In particular without Isis ready i was stuck at Grendall for a week, i couldn't get any tactic (IW or Testudo or Ophion) to work. During the period i discovered the ele hit problem, the max cloak problem, the horn problem, the 3rd book problem. Hopefully you now know .

[Squinters]

grats Agam!

[Agamemnon_S13/4]

Tough slog but very happy to be renned before the next content arrives, gives me chance to close to getting Jord and to consider my setup.

Pretty sure i am sticking with max stats and arms as required. Two perfect mages was nice and tossing in a perfect anubis or odin would be my way to play.

[Moon]

Hey, u guys think its a good idea to train up phaethon after finishing Lost Temple (zeus' heph types with element 86).

So, comparing to heph, it is 30 stat lower

I know, not very feasible in the previous version but with heroism tech in the new version, it should hit relevant to heph or isis in this version, which seems to be very promising.

The cost should be nil as training and washing single stat a hero at this point is not an issue. It could not be used as a tank but should be fine.

What do u guy reckon?

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(07-09-2012, 10:57 AM)Moon Wrote: Hey, u guys think its a good idea to train up phaethon after finishing Lost Temple (zeus' heph types with element 86).

So, comparing to heph, it is 30 stat lower

I know, not very feasible in the previous version but with heroism tech in the new version, it should hit relevant to heph or isis in this version, which seems to be very promising.

The cost should be nil as training and washing single stat a hero at this point is not an issue. It could not be used as a tank but should be fine.

What do u guy reckon?

[Agamemnon_S13/4]

I would not advise that at all.

Isis is proving to be very good in map progress (yes you need more gemming but its long term all good and a placeholder for Jord gear) and really powerful in pvp with alot more to come with the new tech!

[Prabhu]

Mist + TS Mage should do the job. Training 1 unnecessary hero alone can slow you down big time, if you aren't a high VIP.

[Guest]

I finished LT a few months ago before quitting when Dynasty Sage (another version of batheo) coming to the country. Its more appropriate to my time zone then

Anyway, as long as I rmb, when reaching seigfield, and anubis, there are several spare training slots. So training up a new hero should not be an issue. I started now with zeus, so there are even less heroes to be trained

I think the core hardwares for pp to do map 140 150 are 1weap 1 mount 2 books and probably 1 more set of red weap-AA enchant

so need another pure mage to support eurotas and mist. I think if posei can used heph mist anubis to farm oenaumus in this version, I think I can use the phaeton eurotas to farm when having heroism tech as they should hit relevantly or even higher than posei heroes in this version

The mechanism of the game changes since every updates I think. I do see pp using orion and hera in lv 150 now

Even If I failed, the cost around 2-3*30= 60-90 gold/month should not be that significant

[Prabhu]

With hybrid builds around, Pos have the disadvantage of training up 3 mages, while the other two factions can stick to just two(TS mage + Mist). While Heph has his obvious advantages, that's certainly a slight slow down for those that have 5 training slots or lesser.

As an Athenian/Zeusian, I would make use of this advantage rather than train up someone like Charon from scratch. Most of all, there is only one Heph; no other adv. pyromancer is comparable to Heph!

If Heroism is a boon, I'd make use of it to advance further into Rainbow Bridge rather than train up another unwanted hero and slow myself down so the Heroism advantage is nullified

[Agamemnon_S13/4]

Well once again Isis can be used in maps at 150, Haeph cannot.

So why not train her instead? Also, in pvp she always hits for 3000+ as she will find an ungemmed side (ele on anubis, valor on mages) - if she finds both such as on the bugler then it can be 5500+. She is a game changer as i was losing alot to heph's. Remember also pvp gives gems and its a no brainer, more duration (new city remember), more killing power, higher gem income.

Seriously use Isis she is worth it.

[Prabhu]

I'm not sure how important Isis is for the rest of RB, so I can't comment on that but I just don't think she is as critical as other high priority stuff anyway. New World PvP is mostly dictated by inspires/other buffs and/or a 10+ level advantage(which requires faster map progression). In my book, Isis or Phaethon won't be needed for both of these.

All these are with max. 5 training space in mind. If that's void, more heroes can be used, np.

[Agamemnon_S13/4]

My point is this, he clearly has a trg space available, he is considering a far more inadequate mage.

If your going to train one make it worth it - Isis is worth it imho.

Mr B is using 3 mages to beat the end of RB - until Odin is unlocked she is useable, possibly beyond as Anubis is quite poor imho.

[Sapan]

Why do you say Heph is useless in 150 and Isis is not?

I had always thought Heph was superior to Isis. Better base stats makes him a better tank against valor and element or even spirit for those who goes for triple. Can tank with a red weapon which is easier to enchant. Isis needs purple. And as far as I was told, he has better dmg output compared to Isis?

I am not sure about dmg tho, and I havent seen a Isis in my server. dont have no 1st hand experience in there so would like to hear why you would think Heph becomes obsolete all of a sudden?

Actually, I had thought Isis would become obsolete at 150. Cuz when Jord comes in, it is hard to deploy both due to the high gear requirements. 2 books, 2 weapons just for the two. If there is also a BM in there along with a TS.. then one would have to have 3 close to max purple weapons and 3 books for that setup to function. Expensive setup both in drachmas and gems and laurels.

[Moon]

Thanks guys for ur ideas, really appreciate it.

I think I'll wait for more BRs coming to c. Maybe the update will make the gems inflated enchanting isis is not an issue? May be ... Still long time be4 I finish LT in the server so can wait

[Moon]

Or maybe the heroism is a super buff that i dun need any more mage at all.