03-13-2012, 09:42 PM
by ewopsky
Siegfried http://b7.clapalong.com/?fid=N201201048408070
there is siegfried going down to an all elem build. Didn't even get a chance to bring Isis in. So it is possible. You WILL need purple books though. if you don't have the cash to so it, switch to BM or Valor now.
Anubis done all mage, brute forced him. To show Anubis can be defeated without heimdall
http://b7.clapalong.com/?fid=N2012022510112797
And Peneus has higher base stats? let's compare all possible heroes (Syrinx, Hector and Chiron aside since at this level they can't compete):
Name:________Stats:________~Hit% (Based on my observations)
Hephestus:___110/83/113______80%
Isis:_________88/60/105_______70%
Mist:_________85/50/115______60%
Peneus:______74/28/98________30%
Asclepius:____68/30/103_______60%
Telchines:____66/30/94________10%
Psamanthe:___50/32/88________70%
Epimetheus:___53/18/91________50%
Charon:______32/12/85_________80%
Heph, Isis and Mist are sheer winners by stats. They are the best front line you can present. Aslepius is a great front line mage since his effectiveness isn't reduced from damage. Notice vs Anubis I don't have Charon. Psamanthe is in because she supplements the damage Heph, Isis and Mist do, helping them kill their stuff faster. Frankly if I want to rely on luck I'd use Telchines. At least he can send multiple units into chaos. Epimetheus isn't even on my radar anymore. He hits only 50-60% of the time single target and low stats. I want consistent damage round after round. Mist, Isis, Heph and Psamanthe deliver that more consistently than any other team, with maybe Charon as the other consistent mage. I just hope the poet stats in Olympia are high. If so Psamanthe might leave and I might sport 2 healers.
I suspect once Isis' weapon is maxed her damage will bypass heph's damage.
Use Peneus as you will, but you may burn a whole lot more divs trying for that one streak of hits than if you focus on more reliability. But to each their own. Do what works for you. I can only tell you what worked for me and show that an all mage build can be successful and downright scary.
As for equipment, at that time for anubis it was 3 close to maxed ares, maxed purple books on all but healer. No Zeus cloaks. yes I'm 67% through Nils without a single Zeus cloak equipped. (Yes I am commissioning for them now)
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What you see there is a maxed book, maybe 11.5 or so MJ. Isis is triple washed with all washes above +140. (Did I mention elementalists are expensive?) You can get away with double washing Isis (valor and elem) but spirit attacks will rip through her. Enchanting is around +50 for each stat total. But Isis needs that purple weapon to compete with Heph.
So still far from max damage. Enchanting purple gear is just a tad expensive, so it's taking a while to get high stats.
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xario: the elementalists are really nice and not boring but they are much weaker than normal BMs. they are just TOO expensive. and the most stupid part is: a BM user with maxed kylin and angels wings attack can 1shot 3 mages with 3 maxed zeus cloaks(and maxed spirit washes). thats a bit crazy.
Siegfried http://b7.clapalong.com/?fid=N201201048408070
there is siegfried going down to an all elem build. Didn't even get a chance to bring Isis in. So it is possible. You WILL need purple books though. if you don't have the cash to so it, switch to BM or Valor now.
Anubis done all mage, brute forced him. To show Anubis can be defeated without heimdall
http://b7.clapalong.com/?fid=N2012022510112797
Quote:SML1013: Peneus can also miss 10 times in a row and stand there and look stupid as he dies. looks like he used charon to get as much bang for the buck as he could in the 6 or so turns he was alive.Why not Peneus? As folks said, way too Random. I've watched Peneus over and over again fail to hit for streaks at a time. That means in PvP and PvE having to deal with sometimes only having 4 heroes and a weak speed bump. I hate things that are not reliable. And spending divs on that miss chance is just not effective. Also as a bas, I want to be consistently hard to beat, not relying on a 30% hit chance that Peneus seems to have.
And Peneus has higher base stats? let's compare all possible heroes (Syrinx, Hector and Chiron aside since at this level they can't compete):
Name:________Stats:________~Hit% (Based on my observations)
Hephestus:___110/83/113______80%
Isis:_________88/60/105_______70%
Mist:_________85/50/115______60%
Peneus:______74/28/98________30%
Asclepius:____68/30/103_______60%
Telchines:____66/30/94________10%
Psamanthe:___50/32/88________70%
Epimetheus:___53/18/91________50%
Charon:______32/12/85_________80%
Heph, Isis and Mist are sheer winners by stats. They are the best front line you can present. Aslepius is a great front line mage since his effectiveness isn't reduced from damage. Notice vs Anubis I don't have Charon. Psamanthe is in because she supplements the damage Heph, Isis and Mist do, helping them kill their stuff faster. Frankly if I want to rely on luck I'd use Telchines. At least he can send multiple units into chaos. Epimetheus isn't even on my radar anymore. He hits only 50-60% of the time single target and low stats. I want consistent damage round after round. Mist, Isis, Heph and Psamanthe deliver that more consistently than any other team, with maybe Charon as the other consistent mage. I just hope the poet stats in Olympia are high. If so Psamanthe might leave and I might sport 2 healers.
I suspect once Isis' weapon is maxed her damage will bypass heph's damage.
Use Peneus as you will, but you may burn a whole lot more divs trying for that one streak of hits than if you focus on more reliability. But to each their own. Do what works for you. I can only tell you what worked for me and show that an all mage build can be successful and downright scary.
As for equipment, at that time for anubis it was 3 close to maxed ares, maxed purple books on all but healer. No Zeus cloaks. yes I'm 67% through Nils without a single Zeus cloak equipped. (Yes I am commissioning for them now)
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What you see there is a maxed book, maybe 11.5 or so MJ. Isis is triple washed with all washes above +140. (Did I mention elementalists are expensive?) You can get away with double washing Isis (valor and elem) but spirit attacks will rip through her. Enchanting is around +50 for each stat total. But Isis needs that purple weapon to compete with Heph.
So still far from max damage. Enchanting purple gear is just a tad expensive, so it's taking a while to get high stats.
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xario: the elementalists are really nice and not boring but they are much weaker than normal BMs. they are just TOO expensive. and the most stupid part is: a BM user with maxed kylin and angels wings attack can 1shot 3 mages with 3 maxed zeus cloaks(and maxed spirit washes). thats a bit crazy.
