12-22-2011, 10:32 PM
Umm... VIP10 is insanely high.
VIP8's are insanely high IMO. Even VIP7 is excessive unless that gold just went into mass training.
The functional difference between VIP4 and VIP7 is simply the number of heroes the VIP7 has spend gold training up and gold washed. They both have 95% of the tools needed to be top players... but the VIP7 will have more heroes to:
a) experiment with
(i.e. Heimdall's good... and yeah you should pair him with Cronus... but combined with mages who give no moral you get a nearly BM free battle and TEAR through Chilly Mountain and Lost Temple. The VIP4 doesn't have the resources to max train/wash all the heroes needed to find out just how successful things like this are)
b) break a map NPC choke point. I.e. Mnemosyne in Tart can be a nasty choke point, but a rally hero makes it VERY easy. The VIP7 can fast track this training in a day to equip some gear... the VIP maybe has to wait a few days. Same goes for Eurybia and Heimdall who are IMMEDIATELY useful when unlocked and gold training saves a LOT of time
So yes, if the non-VIP, or low-VIP have the benefit of the HIgh-VIP's experience and BRs to knwo what heros will be needed in a month or so... they can advance efficiently.
The goal of high VIPs aren't necessarily to be more efficient...
So ultimately, no, a non-VIP simply can not out run a high VIP in forging through new maps (unless they farm Chinese BRs... again... planning ahead for the few heros they need to pull off map advancement... but thats the same argument I guess... non-VIPs in the Chinese maps will never outrun the high VIPs who have plenty of heroes an gear ready to go from the release of a map).
It doesn't mean non-VIPs are boned for life... we're talking about being #1. If you're ok with being #2 or below in a server of 300+ players... non VIP can be very effective... as long as they plan ahead for the gear/heros they'll need to advance.
For the record.. I'm currently on Nut in Lost Temple... the same one Guderian is on. Only 3 people are past me... all of them much higher VIP than myself... and like Guderian, there are other higher VIPs are are still below me... even though "mages don't map well". smart play even matters at high VIP levels 
VIP8's are insanely high IMO. Even VIP7 is excessive unless that gold just went into mass training.
The functional difference between VIP4 and VIP7 is simply the number of heroes the VIP7 has spend gold training up and gold washed. They both have 95% of the tools needed to be top players... but the VIP7 will have more heroes to:
a) experiment with
(i.e. Heimdall's good... and yeah you should pair him with Cronus... but combined with mages who give no moral you get a nearly BM free battle and TEAR through Chilly Mountain and Lost Temple. The VIP4 doesn't have the resources to max train/wash all the heroes needed to find out just how successful things like this are)
b) break a map NPC choke point. I.e. Mnemosyne in Tart can be a nasty choke point, but a rally hero makes it VERY easy. The VIP7 can fast track this training in a day to equip some gear... the VIP maybe has to wait a few days. Same goes for Eurybia and Heimdall who are IMMEDIATELY useful when unlocked and gold training saves a LOT of time
So yes, if the non-VIP, or low-VIP have the benefit of the HIgh-VIP's experience and BRs to knwo what heros will be needed in a month or so... they can advance efficiently.
The goal of high VIPs aren't necessarily to be more efficient...
So ultimately, no, a non-VIP simply can not out run a high VIP in forging through new maps (unless they farm Chinese BRs... again... planning ahead for the few heros they need to pull off map advancement... but thats the same argument I guess... non-VIPs in the Chinese maps will never outrun the high VIPs who have plenty of heroes an gear ready to go from the release of a map).
It doesn't mean non-VIPs are boned for life... we're talking about being #1. If you're ok with being #2 or below in a server of 300+ players... non VIP can be very effective... as long as they plan ahead for the gear/heros they'll need to advance.
For the record.. I'm currently on Nut in Lost Temple... the same one Guderian is on. Only 3 people are past me... all of them much higher VIP than myself... and like Guderian, there are other higher VIPs are are still below me... even though "mages don't map well".
smart play even matters at high VIP levels