Bravery Tech Full Details

[Pluton]

New Tech: Bravery (from Squinters 160 update thread)
a) increase attack damage (offensive elixir)
b) First level available at lvl 122


Technology Cost:
Level : laurels

Lv 122 : 66000
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Now I can't find the spreadsheet for the cost of every technology in Athanaton Forum...
UPDATE: Found it!

Technology Cost:

[Agamemnon_S13/4]

Level 5 i think has a picture for 96,000. Basically this does not look good for laurels!!

I am figuring 1.5mn or so for level 150 - expensive!!

Do we even know if we expect 0.5% per rank or to mirror elixir and act like level 70etc and be 35% more dmg? Or just a lowly 7.5% more dmg from 15 levels at 150??

[Squinters]

it's 1.5x the laurel cost of elixir at the same level.

lvl 2 bravery = 1.5x lvl 124 elixir and so on

bravery is known to be 1%, which would be 15% boost at 150 (pretty big deal, think about the affect of lvl 3 inspire in pvp, granted you don't have the defense bonus). Also the 15% isn't a 15% boost in damage, similar to prestige battle bonus, it is an additional 15% boost on total spirit hit power, etc.

Depending on arms/enchants the actual increase in damage output will be in the 40-50% range.

The 0.5% for given for elixir and bravery are in terms of the damage calculator algorithm. True number for affect of elixir on defense rating is unknown, although 0.5% can be a good estimate.

[Pluton]

Ok I found it. I was searching for the cost of Exilir.

[Agamemnon_S13/4]

Will make the POET heal for 40% more, could make him pretty damn good!

[Zalera]

Pluton, do you have a link to a spreadsheet for total costs of all techs? I looked here and on clapalong forum and couldn't find any.

[Pluton]

Spreadsheet for total costs of all techs? I said in Athanaton forum, which is NOT clapalong forum and any Athanaton forum has better information and better mods than clapalong forum.

http://sols9.com/batheo/AthanatonFR.xls

[EOD]

(07-23-2012, 01:37 PM)Squinters Wrote: bravery is known to be 1%, which would be 15% boost at 150 (pretty big deal, think about the affect of lvl 3 inspire in pvp, granted you don't have the defense bonus). Also the 15% isn't a 15% boost in damage, similar to prestige battle bonus, it is an additional 15% boost on total spirit hit power, etc.

Depending on arms/enchants the actual increase in damage output will be in the 40-50% range.

The 0.5% for given for elixir and bravery are in terms of the damage calculator algorithm. True number for affect of elixir on defense rating is unknown, although 0.5% can be a good estimate.

Sorry for warming up this old thread. Just believing some further discussion on this topic might be interesting for lower level players' planning (higher level players simply max it out anyways). On German Athanaton servers, we just recently had the update that included bravery. After the update, I did a little damage comparison between "no bravery" and "bravery at lvl 13".
To me, it very much looked like the 13 bravery levels provided me with a 10-15% damage bonus on the net damage dealt. It's probably 1% per level and I simply had the usual randomness when it was higher or lower.

Examples: Siege attack of 1000 became about 1100, Mage damage of 3000 became about 3500, Gambit (Anubis) damage of 4000 became about 4500.

That is still a powerful improvement, but it's nothing in the area of 40-50%.
Or maybe this is different on our servers than the Batheo ones...

[Squinters]

Quote:Depending on arms/enchants the actual increase in damage output will be in the 40-50% range

[EOD]

To provide more info: The 1k damage was related to a +85 valor enchant. The other damages were obtained with +130ish enchants. Arms only lvl 2 for siege damage but 4 for the others, which is not great arms but probably something that an average player might have on the rainbow bridge.
I was farming Elf, so it's a relatively realistic scenario and strength comparison. No extremes, though.

Now, I'm curious myself: Does the %-effect increase when the opponent is increasingly stronger (e.g. when pushing the maps)? Or does the effect increase when the opponent is significantly weaker (e.g. a 20 level lower PvP opponent)?

[SteveForge]

Academy lv 152, Bravery 16 = 156,000 laurels
Academy lv 154, Bravery 17 = 162,000 laurels
Academy lv 156, Bravery 18 = 168?
Academy lv 158, Bravery 19 = 174?
Academy lv 160, Bravery 20 = 180?
Academy lv 162, Bravery 21 = 182,000 laurels

Total 150 to 160 upgrade= 840,000 laurels

For comparison,
Academy lv 152, Elixir 76 = 104,000 laurels
Academy lv 154, Elixir 77 = 108,000 laurels
Academy lv 156, Elixir 78 = 112?
Academy lv 158, Elixir 79 = 116?
Academy lv 160, Elixir 80 = 120?
Academy lv 162, Elixir 81 = 124,000 laurels

Total lv150 to 160 upgrade= 560,000 laurels.

Per the crew from S5's Gods (GOD) league... recently changed to S3's GODS (NPO - the New Poseidon Order).
Tx to Elric, Macedon, Katet, Ewokspy, and yours truely for checking their gear.